«Here I can walk down the street and people will shout: ‘Don’t bring Messi!’»

— Does the position of technical director at Flamengo require greater football competence or greater political capacity?

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— Due to its size, it is a very political club. I’m always very far from that, especially because I’m not Brazilian. I don’t have. I don’t have the ability to understand the political connections. Of course, I leave that to the president. I limit myself to technical decisions and everything I work on in football and don’t even think about…

— But do you feel politics around you?

— Sit down. Obviously, sit down. There is always a political weight in a club that has a size like this and that really has a very large political weight.

— What wears you down the most? Press, fans, agents or some issue of egos?

— Here in Brazil, the Press. The Press is very…

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